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	<title>Comments on: Are events like FullCodePress damaging to the web development community?</title>
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	<description>International website in a day competition</description>
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		<title>By: huntington web design</title>
		<link>http://www.fullcodepress.com/2009/04/23/community/comment-page-1/#comment-11333</link>
		<dc:creator>huntington web design</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Sep 2010 01:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that! lol... so I&#039;m nevertheless wondering what you notion for the post I produced last week, you never did comment on it??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that! lol&#8230; so I&#8217;m nevertheless wondering what you notion for the post I produced last week, you never did comment on it??</p>
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		<title>By: Drupal community builds Irish charity websites &#171; Nonprofit web design &#171; by Jason King</title>
		<link>http://www.fullcodepress.com/2009/04/23/community/comment-page-1/#comment-4997</link>
		<dc:creator>Drupal community builds Irish charity websites &#171; Nonprofit web design &#171; by Jason King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 06:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] two charity websites has announced its team members and attempted to answer a tricky question: are events like this damaging to the web development community? I don&#8217;t think that charitable one-off events like this are anything other than a good idea. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] two charity websites has announced its team members and attempted to answer a tricky question: are events like this damaging to the web development community? I don&#8217;t think that charitable one-off events like this are anything other than a good idea. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jason King</title>
		<link>http://www.fullcodepress.com/2009/04/23/community/comment-page-1/#comment-4996</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason King</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Apr 2009 05:28:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the comments are a bit silly. As if one competition threatens the industry! And 24 hours is plenty enough time for a professional team to put together a good website.

However, I think a bit of follow-up after the competition would be a good idea, just to fix any remaining bugs and tie up loose ends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the comments are a bit silly. As if one competition threatens the industry! And 24 hours is plenty enough time for a professional team to put together a good website.</p>
<p>However, I think a bit of follow-up after the competition would be a good idea, just to fix any remaining bugs and tie up loose ends.</p>
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		<title>By: Amanda Browne</title>
		<link>http://www.fullcodepress.com/2009/04/23/community/comment-page-1/#comment-4987</link>
		<dc:creator>Amanda Browne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 20:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Man there are some harsh comments on the SitePoint post. 

I agree with Renae and Steve. It&#039;s a great opportunity to have some fun doing what we all have a passion for and at the same time do some good in the world. What could be better than that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man there are some harsh comments on the SitePoint post. </p>
<p>I agree with Renae and Steve. It&#8217;s a great opportunity to have some fun doing what we all have a passion for and at the same time do some good in the world. What could be better than that!</p>
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		<title>By: Renae</title>
		<link>http://www.fullcodepress.com/2009/04/23/community/comment-page-1/#comment-4986</link>
		<dc:creator>Renae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 04:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Full Code press is nothing but a positive initiative - it&#039;s fun,  challenging and at the end of the day, it&#039;s an opportunity for the web community to give back to other member of society that need our skills. 

I find it hard to believe that any client would expect their website to be built in 24hrs, under these conditions, in a real world scenario. Again, the Iron Chef analogy is pertinent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Full Code press is nothing but a positive initiative &#8211; it&#8217;s fun,  challenging and at the end of the day, it&#8217;s an opportunity for the web community to give back to other member of society that need our skills. </p>
<p>I find it hard to believe that any client would expect their website to be built in 24hrs, under these conditions, in a real world scenario. Again, the Iron Chef analogy is pertinent.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Dennis</title>
		<link>http://www.fullcodepress.com/2009/04/23/community/comment-page-1/#comment-4985</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Dennis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 03:40:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact of the matter is that in sheer hours alone at fairly standard market rates there&#039;s well over $20,000 worth of work that goes into each of these websites.  I don&#039;t expect anyone would reasonably expect real world projects to be run at all like this.

Also people should keep in mind that over 90% of websites currently out do not involve specialist UX/IA design, and sometimes not even much in the way of requirements gathering.  The industry is still littered with amatures.  Rushed as these may be, a lot of non-profit sites end up a lot worse.

And if your client&#039;s are leaving you to try to get a &#039;cowboy&#039; to do a site in 24 hours for them, you don&#039;t want them as a client.

(and lets not forget cowboys were the first people into space) ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact of the matter is that in sheer hours alone at fairly standard market rates there&#8217;s well over $20,000 worth of work that goes into each of these websites.  I don&#8217;t expect anyone would reasonably expect real world projects to be run at all like this.</p>
<p>Also people should keep in mind that over 90% of websites currently out do not involve specialist UX/IA design, and sometimes not even much in the way of requirements gathering.  The industry is still littered with amatures.  Rushed as these may be, a lot of non-profit sites end up a lot worse.</p>
<p>And if your client&#8217;s are leaving you to try to get a &#8216;cowboy&#8217; to do a site in 24 hours for them, you don&#8217;t want them as a client.</p>
<p>(and lets not forget cowboys were the first people into space) <img src='http://www.fullcodepress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Hamish</title>
		<link>http://www.fullcodepress.com/2009/04/23/community/comment-page-1/#comment-4984</link>
		<dc:creator>Hamish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:23:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think it&#039;s entirely paranoid, as it&#039;s usually an uphill battle to convince the hierarchy that websites don&#039;t build themselves. I would suggest though that the people that are making the decisions re: hiring/funding/contracting are entirely likely to be completely oblivious to FCP anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s entirely paranoid, as it&#8217;s usually an uphill battle to convince the hierarchy that websites don&#8217;t build themselves. I would suggest though that the people that are making the decisions re: hiring/funding/contracting are entirely likely to be completely oblivious to FCP anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: Zef</title>
		<link>http://www.fullcodepress.com/2009/04/23/community/comment-page-1/#comment-4983</link>
		<dc:creator>Zef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 01:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d probably be in a stretcher within a week if I had to do FCP all over again every day/night of the week!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d probably be in a stretcher within a week if I had to do FCP all over again every day/night of the week!</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Magain</title>
		<link>http://www.fullcodepress.com/2009/04/23/community/comment-page-1/#comment-4982</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Magain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2009 00:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spot on Russ. The analogy to Iron Chef is spot on. Suggesting that competitions like this where people explore what can be achieved shouldn&#039;t happen because the entire web industry might suffer are uninformed and bordering on paranoid, IMO. If you do that bad a job convincing your clients of your worth, then maybe you need some lessons in marketing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spot on Russ. The analogy to Iron Chef is spot on. Suggesting that competitions like this where people explore what can be achieved shouldn&#8217;t happen because the entire web industry might suffer are uninformed and bordering on paranoid, IMO. If you do that bad a job convincing your clients of your worth, then maybe you need some lessons in marketing.</p>
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		<title>By: Bjarni</title>
		<link>http://www.fullcodepress.com/2009/04/23/community/comment-page-1/#comment-4981</link>
		<dc:creator>Bjarni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 22:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its all relative, you could build three website in 24hrs or you could do the first section of research for one website - &quot;how long is a piece of string&quot; : )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its all relative, you could build three website in 24hrs or you could do the first section of research for one website &#8211; &#8220;how long is a piece of string&#8221; : )</p>
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